scalarparty ([info]scalarparty) wrote,
@ 2006-01-19 09:04:00
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Arrrrrgggghhh!
argh!
I ought to just stop reading anything the moment i see "opinion" in the editorial sectioning of online news.... MARK STEYN, an editor for the Jerusalem Post just cut/copied/pasted some lame-ass opinion piece on the cult of global warming. (sheeesh! you'd think that a country like israel, with all of its problems, and no oil would just mind their `own business, but obviously, it's a little more than "opinion" and for some reason Mr. Steyn's bosses decided that we need more obfuscation lies and slight-of-words printed in the diarreah of anti-greenhouse mental sludge sphere.... Not to mention that this lame-o didn't even do his own research! Anyone who has had to wade through the CO2-is-good-for-you tripe, will be familiar not only with the arguments he pastes, but even the actual wording and phrases.... Oh my god, will someone please duct tape this useless pontificator? Not only does he bring up Michael Chriton's anti environmentalist's book in the first line (a sure indication where the crap will roll-- not only does he think Chriton is a purveyor of sound policies, but he actually thinks it's a good read! So no accounting for taste, the guy still has his head up his butt)

And you may think i'm being a little harsh here, so let me just pluck some adjectives from this bile-spewer's litany for y'all: "Martin Sheenesque Hollywood eco-poseur," ..."eco-tists sounded more than a little squaresvill," ..."the short-term interests of the eco-establishment count for more than the long-term health and welfare of ordinary Australians," ...."laughably fraudulent (hear that Patrick Michaels?)," ...."Yet, such is the power of the eco-lobby that this fraud became the centerpiece of UN reports on global warming.," ...."the problem for the Kyoto cultists," ...."Kyotocrats will be citing lack of climate change as evidence of climate change. They are, literally, a church, and under the Holy Book of Kyoto their bishops demand that the great industrial nations of the world tithe their incomes to them," ...."unlike the Kyotophiles, their (the Beyond Kyoto crew)strategy isn't a form of cultural self-flagellation," ..."One day, the world will marvel at the environmental hysteria at our time, and the deeply damaging corruption of science in the cause of an alarmist cult.," I normally don't hold back, but I will with what i would tell this guy to do with his plagaristic "opinion"


Instead i will offer an antidote. This Mark Steyn guy, obviously genuflected, and open for rimming any American will (or what he thinks will appease America), might do better (and for anyone looking for an actual good opinion) try reading an article actually from within the United States. I don't think you can find a more car crazy place than Petaluma California (That's where the car's first owner was, a little old lady from Petaluma). And yet, The Petaluma Argus Courier has a great article by Bruce Hagen entitled "Our choice: petrolism or patriotism". Now, maybe I have a bias, but this guy hits all the notes, with a pro-activist stance and you can really understand what he's talking about. So there Mr. Jerusalem Post Disinformation Editor, try some reality....




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[info]7leaguebootdisk
2006-01-20 01:46 am UTC (link)
While I do believe that we are heading into a period of dramatic climate change, I am not convince that it driven by man. Frankly, we have so little data, and such poor models, that saying we are causing it by doing X, is quite a reach.

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[info]scalarparty
2006-01-20 01:02 pm UTC (link)
i think you may be right-- but also that that argument, the anthropogenic argument, pro or con, is realy moot. to me, if we have ample proof that CO2 levels rise at the end of previous interglacial eras, then what does it matter if it's from us, or from natural sources? what matters is that it's rising again. We can look at previoius interglacial times when obviously, our ancestors weren't to blame.. and we can find naturalways that CO2 is emitted... like forest fires (with no fancy planes to douse them, an no Silvicultural Engineers cutting fire-walls). Also you can look at carbon sinks that we have already done over the past few thousand years (landfill newspapers, books, architectures, stradavariouses...)... si like i say i feel it's moot. Cause even if every car in north america shut off-- the problem is not going away. Even if we STOPPED our emissions on the whole planet, the extra CO2 (and CH4, S6Fl....) up there, is already caiusing perturbations, and will continue to do so.... to me a better question is why would the planet want to be in thes cycle (12,000 warm 88,000 cold)? What does the ice do? I mean even if we geo-engineer the oceans, and chemoengineer the clouds and atmosphere and we stop climate change, what does that serve? If there were provessed that are needed by the galciation and we don't learn what they are and do them without the ice then we will not have a stable system to support us...

fault-finding at this point is kinda useless.... much better to get proactive in understanding and adaptation (imnsho)

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[info]scalarparty
2006-01-20 01:05 pm UTC (link)
the models are pitiful but getting better every day... the gridscaled has gone from 500 square miles, to 5 (still a heck of a lot bigger than an actual cloud) and while they have yet to integarte the cloud-making chemistry into the physics models, they have integrated ocean circulations (!) and proof that they are getting better, back a decade ago i got tossed out of Princeton for bugging the GPFDL head about gulf streams flipping and shutting down, which their GCMs didn't predict. Now pretty much all GCMs predict that! they are getting a little better... but thank heavens we dont wait for scientific certainty before acting..

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